Post by Simon Clubley Post by Stephen Hoffman
What is going on here, folks?
VMS is looking pretty good right now. This for the first time in a
long time, too.
What's caused you to suddenly change your tune from your previous
(accurate) comments about how much work is required to make VMS viable
to newcomers in today's world ?
You presume I've changed positions here? You'd be wrong. Very wrong.
If you're expecting support statements or announcements ahead of the
presentations at the boot camp, you're going to be disappointed.
Expecting published support statements from third-party vendors at this
early stage is somewhere between premature and overly optimistic, in
the most charitable of phrasing.
Expecting that VSI and Oracle are not aware that customers will want
and need Rdb? VSI needs Rdb for their own internal operations, or
they're looking at a database port.
But if you really do desire official statements on VMS or on
third-party products, contact VSI, or the vendor. Directly.
It's questionable whether most folks need these official statements
with any urgency, too. Beyond some nice polite messages to assuage the
inattentive, and maybe fodder to justify a trip to the boot camp, that
is. At this juncture, most folks using VMS are probably best waiting
and watching. With the exception of some key third-party software
developers, most folks are not going to be working on ports to x86 for
several years, even in the best case.
VSI will establish series of development goals. Boot camp
presentations. Paramount among the engineering goals: get V8.poulson
shipping. After V8.poulson ships, get x64 shipping. There'll
undoubtedly be patch roll-ups and some updates for security patches and
some "housekeeping" work in V8.poulson and x64, and there may be some
features targeted for specific (large) customers, but I'd be surprised
if there were much significant new or general work in either V8.poulson
or in the VMS x86 port.
VSI has a huge pile of work ahead of them, now and beyond V8.poulson
and VMS x86. Using various other platforms regularly in addition to
VMS, it's easy to get a decent idea of how much work is in front of VSI
here, to bring VMS to competitive, though that depends on what markets
they're aiming at. The Apple Xcode IDE and llvm/clang/swift is so far
beyond LSEDIT, it's not even really comparable. But I digress.
I'm among the folks that would like to see VSI succeed. Whether they
will succeed, I don't know. But they're clearly funded, and they're
trying. Any operating system project has to be a very long-term
investment, and not is without financial risk. Whether the investment
and the development effort will pay off for VSI, I don't know.
Are there things here that concern me about VMS and about VSI? Sure.
Fscking support statements for a release that's — again — probably
three years out and in the very best case? Those statements are not
among my concerns. I'm going to allow VSI the benefit of the doubt
As for the current status of VMS looking pretty good right now, five
weeks ago, VMS was supported by HP and bugs fixed, but not being
enhanced, with the most recent VMS release from 2010, and with HP
events and presentations were increasingly covering on user migrations.
In the past five weeks, an additional company with a new team of
developers are starting work on VMS, and with a roadmap for new VMS
releases and updates and a port to commodity hardware. That's a very
positive change. VMS won't really be back until after V8.poulson and
VMS x86 ship. And work. But things are looking better, and in just
the past five weeks.
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